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gone · Jan 12, 2008, 03:04 PM // 15:04

"Are people allowed to run full tests to give information to Anet"

apparently one person is. just one.

Puritans Aid · Jan 12, 2008, 03:07 PM // 15:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by FeroxC

Some of you guys got to realise this isn't an exploit. Exploits are bugs/unintentional game mechanics in the game being abused. Anet removed access to this outpost so there was no bug, they hacked the game to gain access to it.

Tifole you may not be the hacker but your party leader was and you exploited this.

THIS IS SIMPLY A LIE..

Read all my posts, then come talk to me in game .. PM NUMBERONE SEVENTEEN in game.

No one hacked. NO ONE HACKED>> NO ONE HACKED!!!

ITS A BUG!!!!

its addmited to be a bug, a game that is locked/isnt locked, by GAILE GRAY.... EVEN THO she DID EARLIER SAY its a hack, they new that NOT TO BE TRUE at the time..

A NET knows its not a hack, and until they stop lying to the community, PABLO, and peopl elike me, are going to post to your forums, in our defense/ TO try to help you guys so that one day, you too, dont get banned for a hack, that isnt a hack.

MY PARTY leader wasnt a hacker. Neither was anyone in my guild.

I didnt exploit this, I didnt make crap on it, and I didnt NEED crap.

We had STOPPED DOING THIS A FULL MONTH before we got banned.

Puritan.

FeroxC · Jan 12, 2008, 03:09 PM // 15:09

Pablo said people manipulated packets to get to the town - HACK and only a very rare occurence let you enter it via a glitch.

Lady Ana Stacia · Jan 12, 2008, 03:15 PM // 15:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puritans Aid

THIS IS SIMPLY A LIE..

I didnt exploit this, I didnt make crap on it, and I didnt NEED crap.

We had STOPPED DOING THIS A FULL MONTH before we got banned.

Puritan.

BS You already admitted to continually using the bug/exploit/hack to kill Mallyx! Quit whining already just because you stopped a month ago as you say doesn't make it right! Whichever of the above it truly is you still took part continually which is why you got BANNED!

Thats just like someone screaming I stopped duping a month ago I shouldn't be banned! Just because you already stopped doesn't mean your in the clear.

You exploited a bug/hacked/exploit whatever it was and you got caught. Now deal with your consequences. If like you say you are so into Guild Wars and have spent thousands of hours in game you would know using exploits in game for personal game results in BANS!

Puritans Aid · Jan 12, 2008, 03:16 PM // 15:16

Shanaeri Rynale has good points. The thing is, some of us truley didn't know it wasn't part of the game. IF WE HAD? OH we wouldn't have done it. Or the ones who ARE SHADY, would have done it on an alt, and transfered all the goods to their main, and had an alt banned, and be laughing all the way to the bank... which I am hearing 1 person did do that, and is quite happy. 1 happy 116 upset. Which ones are shady?

oh and the guy who said only 25 runs..
25 runs, with only 15 completeds, = approximately at 20 to 30 minutes a run , *as I said, you still kill about 30 mobs* and 2 hrs to get your group together, as with any farm, I guess I only spent about 30 hrs getting a gymset, NOt any different than you would doing it normal way. And over a 2 month period.

And we quit doing it a month before bans. why? because its boring, and we play for fun. We dont exploit/scam/cheat/hack. We are honest Faction farmers, and game lovers.
Puritan

FeroxC · Jan 12, 2008, 03:23 PM // 15:23

2 hours to get your group together, lol.

Lets face it: you had direct access to Mallyx and you knew it wasn't normal. Youd struck gold and you milked it to the max thinking youd get away with it :P

Puritans Aid · Jan 12, 2008, 03:24 PM // 15:24

only a very rare occurence let you enter it via a glitch.

pablo said this.

OK, well the fact is someone glitched in, or however, i dont know how it first was aquired.

Your ALL right, I DID FARM IT about 25 times. this is against agreement. OR IS IT?

THE EULA says, KNOWINGLY EXPLOITING A BUG?GLITCH ETC is a bannable offense.

I am NOT KIDDING YOU GUYS, when I say that at LEAST 50 of us, DID NOT KNOW THIS WASN'T PART OF THE GAME! WE did NOT KNOWINGLY exploit, and its arguable weather we even exploited at all. But IF what we did is exploiting a glitch/bug/hack, WE DID NOT KNOW IT.

IF YOU had read all the stuff I wrote, you would see that.

OH, and I wasn't bringing the pres of the US as an example, I was bringing BIG MONEY as an example.
Puritan

PS, if you DIDNT know that you were killing someone by playing a video game, which was attached to a real gun, would you be guilty?
By what your saying, definately, you should have realizedthe game was fake.

Sorry to tell you, that isn't right. THe person, or persons who set up the fake game, that actually kills people would be at fault. Not the person doing the fake game.

chaoticimajar · Jan 12, 2008, 03:24 PM // 15:24

I love all you non exploiters who keep telling us how we did this honestly you are gonna believe the communist government controling our game believe them if you want we know what we did can't argue with us and i lvl'd in WoW earlier is anyone cares

Puritans Aid · Jan 12, 2008, 03:31 PM // 15:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeVaNeY121

You seem sorry...............................that you got caught. Plz cry m0re.

to me this is a flame.

I am not sorry that a bug/exploitable glitch/whatever was found and rooted out. I am sorry that I got banned, and was apparently doing something wrong.

I didnt know I was doing something wrong, and If i had i wouldnt have done it.
I am sorry guild wars/ A NET feels the right solution is to ban anyone who has ever set foot in some town, that people can glitch into, as has been admited.

I am NOT sorry I got caught playing and enjoying the game. I AM SORRY that the guild wars community, and you, think I cheated/ hacked.etc

I am sorry that A NET didnt find a solution to this, about 6 months ago , when it was first reported, according to logs now posted on guru.... it would have saved about 117 or more accounts from being banned.

Puritan

FeroxC · Jan 12, 2008, 03:34 PM // 15:34

Ok even if you didn't blow the doors off the bank yourself, you're still the equivelent of an oppertunist theif .
And you got to pay, go buy another account to fund more patches

Puritans Aid · Jan 12, 2008, 03:36 PM // 15:36

one more thing.. while i'm here. PLEASE ANYONE WHO REMEMBERS PURITANS AID< OR PALADIN PURITAN< OR WHY PURITAN WHY< HELPING THEM FOR FREE, OR Teaching them to farm UW/FOW/COF, FREE, Running people around towns etc free, Tell these people Im not some bad person, who scams/hacks/cheats, then cries on posts.

IF I had known this was hack/glitch etc, I would have reported it. as apparently several people did, who then got banned anyway.

FeroxC · Jan 12, 2008, 03:39 PM // 15:39

Thank god, GW2 doesn't need exploit farmers.

Shanaeri Rynale · Jan 12, 2008, 03:41 PM // 15:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by flubber

"Are people allowed to run full tests to give information to Anet"

apparently one person is. just one.

How does one know if you are the only one, esp if we are not supposed to talk about it. What if a test requires more people?

jeesuss89 · Jan 12, 2008, 03:48 PM // 15:48

I think keeping your own farm to yourself is the general mindset of most farmers...

I dunno, what do you think???

Bryant Again · Jan 12, 2008, 03:57 PM // 15:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by pablo24

In case some of you care how it may have been done, it was:
-Changing the ZoneID from the Map Travel packet which would be hacking
-or a rare bug that causes the client to think it you are in an outpost, if that happens and you log out and back in, you get ported to the mission outpost.

If they used the clientside outpost bug imo they don't deserve the ban.

Quoting this because Pablo really knows his shit. He's helped with a couple of serious bugs including a storage bug in Pre, so I'm very inclined to side with this guy.

gone · Jan 12, 2008, 03:57 PM // 15:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shanaeri Rynale

How does one know if you are the only one, esp if we are not supposed to talk about it. What if a test requires more people?

I can't rightfully answer that, you'd have to ask anet's new hack rep. but I don't think even he's allowed to tell. ;-X

in all seriousness, I haven't a clue. all I can do is tell you what I would do. and that is, turn my head and walk away. like always.

Dev121 · Jan 12, 2008, 04:01 PM // 16:01

Run: Running to a destination that is openly accessable to save the runner/people attenending time.

Bug: Accessing something that needs other requirments to access which you bypass.

Work it out.

Aiden Arcana · Jan 12, 2008, 04:03 PM // 16:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeVaNeY121

Run: Running to a destination that is openly accessable to save the runner/people attenending time.

Bug: Accessing something that needs other requirments to access which you bypass.

Work it out.

Ohhh!!! So ferrying to Consolate Docks is bannable as well?? Anet, your heard it from the man right here.
Or beating Prophesies by getting ran to Droks, then beating the campaign by doing THK and the 3 Fire Island missions

Eva luvz Popo · Jan 12, 2008, 04:15 PM // 16:15

/wave all
I'm one of those 117 condemned ppl for the Ebony citadel bug.
A "friend" told me we can do mallyx by the easiest way with ursans team in something like 20min and the only requirement is to complete the 4 areas and to get into the mallyx mission, once
The only zone I full completed was foundry with 600 n heroes, so I did a fast rush in the 3 other after that he told me mallyx can be kill like Rago in sorrow furnace i meant he was like a farmable boss coz I was asking some noob question about DOA wich I didn’t know like FoW or UW
BUT after some few runs (something like 4) he finally told me it was a bug n he seemed to don’t know all about this like if it was legit or not so I prefer stop it right after this news
When on Tuesday I heard 117 account was banned with the last update I searched on wiki why n, in the same time, looked on the official site what was containing the last update I was frightened to learn that was for a bug with the ebony citadel n checked aka with the little new year present on by Anet…
I am still considering the only crime I did is I’m a good noob about the DoA n particularly about mallyx…but what I can't accept is that we r like hackers perhaps all started from one person who perhaps hacked the prog or a guy from Anet could give it one of his IG friends who give to another friend etc. We will never know I think BUT why all 117 banned r treated hackers whereas they were just ferried from GH to this outpost (ferrying ppl to an outpost from GH isn't prohibited right?)
Yes we exploit a bug but I think some banned r like me n were just deceived by another player who they were considering like a friend and they trusted him coz they dunno anything about mallyx
BUT no we rn't hackers...
So why all of the other ppl who r saying "booh u r hackers, shame on u, u just have all u deserve what u needed"
Personally, I just know about virus malware n other spyware in informatics prigs n all u r talking about .dat files is like Chinese or Martian (as u want but Chinese exist like we can see on TV not like Martians)
So plz don't treated us Hackers when we aren’t.

Thank you for readind this and I hope my english isn't so bad like I trust so sorry if I did mistakes in this post...

lishi · Jan 12, 2008, 04:21 PM // 16:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eva luvz Popo

/wave all
I'm one of those 117 condemned ppl for the Ebony citadel bug.
A "friend" told me we can do mallyx by the easiest way with ursans team in something like 20min and the only requirement is to complete the 4 areas and to get into the mallyx mission, once
The only zone I full completed was foundry with 600 n heroes, so I did a fast rush in the 3 other after that he told me mallyx can be kill like Rago in sorrow furnace i meant he was like a farmable boss coz I was asking some noob question about DOA wich I didn’t know like FoW or UW
BUT after some few runs (something like 4) he finally told me it was a bug n he seemed to don’t know all about this like if it was legit or not so I prefer stop it right after this news
When on Tuesday I heard 117 account was banned with the last update I searched on wiki why n, in the same time, looked on the official site what was containing the last update I was frightened to learn that was for a bug with the ebony citadel n checked aka with the little new year present on by Anet…
I am still considering the only crime I did is I’m a good noob about the DoA n particularly about mallyx…but what I can't accept is that we r like hackers perhaps all started from one person who perhaps hacked the prog or a guy from Anet could give it one of his IG friends who give to another friend etc. We will never know I think BUT why all 117 banned r treated hackers whereas they were just ferried from GH to this outpost (ferrying ppl to an outpost from GH isn't prohibited right?)
Yes we exploit a bug but I think some banned r like me n were just deceived by another player who they were considering like a friend and they trusted him coz they dunno anything about mallyx
BUT no we rn't hackers...
So why all of the other ppl who r saying "booh u r hackers, shame on u, u just have all u deserve what u needed"
Personally, I just know about virus malware n other spyware in informatics prigs n all u r talking about .dat files is like Chinese or Martian (as u want but Chinese exist like we can see on TV not like Martians)
So plz don't treated us Hackers when we aren’t.

Thank you for readind this and I hope my english isn't so bad like I trust so sorry if I did mistakes in this post...

well, if what you said is truth and you did something like 4 run and stopped after they told you is a bug you can appeal.

Anet have the logs of all chat and zoning so they should figure out the truth